November 3, 2022 INDEPENDENCE, Ohio, (Nov. 3, 2022) The BLET and SMART-TD will host a joint town hall meeting next week to discuss the tentative national rail agreement. "The Belen cutoff was established in 1908 and that was really the first major enhancement," explained Craig Rasmussen, assistant vice president, Engineering Services and Structures. About ten years ago the railroad proposed moving almost everyone from Boone to Rochelle. Note that the Puget Sound Extension and the WP were built in the 1905-1910 time frame and train speeds were up significantly from 30 to 40 years earlier. I'm a teetotaler, so that thought is never on my mind. I believe it was cptrainman of the "Hunter, . Lowest Point : 456 ft @ Topock, AZ. "I honestly hope that this isn't going to be the new normal because people are walking out faster than we can hire them on," said Goodson. Zug, I still enjoy talking with railroad employees, but I am very careful about initiating conversations. Major stations: Barstow, Ash Hill; Yards: Needles; Crew Change Points: Needles, Barstow Junctions: Daggett (UPRR Cima Sub) MP 739.6 Highest point: 2187 @ Lavic; Lowest Point: 620 @ Amboy . When they eventually finish their Blair and Clinton projects(not any time soon) I expect a push tochange the crew districts. Retirees may not work at BNSF any longer, but many are active in their communities and play an important role as unofficial ambassadors for BNSF. Also Portal, ND and Noyes, MN, but that is because thay are also Country change points(Canada/US border). > * Pueblo east: ?? Like what's going on for June, when the KO Sub between Minot and Fargo isundergoing MoWwork, some trains will re-route over the Devils Lake Sub to Grand Forks (change crews at DL Switch) and then run down the Hillsboro Sub into Fargo By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our, Get our weekly newsletter delivered to your inbox. Alaska Railfanning / My ARR Photos on Flickr. Lately, they are alsohandling most of the auto racks and one Q manifest. The home terminal is the place where the crew normally goes to work; usually, its where the crew members live. In 1992, Santa Fe began a decades-long project to double-track the 512 miles of the route that remained single-tracked. OK, LION knows that tey went from 100 mile runs to 200 mile runs some time about 10 years ago. Thanks in advance! The Super 8 was their lodging and it was set up with a computer terminal for employees to "see" the railroad and determine what their near future entailed. Nothing against the over-eager railfans, but the only thing we wanted to think about was sleep. I hear talk about crews having to be changed because trains are late and their time is up, that doesn't seem to go by mileage. At times they will change within minutes of stopping at the "crosswalk" where employees cross the mainline, and at other times the incoming crew will "tie down" their train on the main-line and the train will wait for literally hours on the main for the outgoing (new) crew. 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BNSF crew change points. "This policy, that they have now, cut that in half and in half. No? More than just lines on a map, a railroad is people. Would this be in the ballpark for the Hi Line? Some were/are longer, some were/are shorter. .so far" thread who said that through frieghts now use only one crew, but way freights are still supplied with crews on each Sub. Looking for a media contact within BNSF? I imagine the Lee-miester isa busy camper these days, like everybody on UP. Sometimes it would take the the full 16 hours on the HOS to make the run. Amtrak runs Whitefish to Havre, but I think all freights recrew at Shelby, MT, I think the other crew change is at Wolf Point, MTrather than Glasgow, MT. Would this be the right list for the Transcon? Which meant that many crewsmight not be able to make the far treminal on their HOS. > * Denver northeast: Sterling, CO? I thought I read that UP phased out Rawlins, and all trains go throughto Green River from Cheyenne. "At any given time, there are about 300 trains running along the Transcon," added Rasmussen. 546 posts BNSF Crew Change Points (Transcon and Hi Line) Posted by Doublestack on Monday, June 4, 2007 10:39 PM Good evening, Someone recently asked me how many crew changes it takes to get from Chicago to LA vs. Chicago to Seattle. OK, LION knows that tey went from 100 mile runs to 200 mile runs some time about 10 years ago. Curiosity about Melstone got to me and found out that it now has a population of 96, down from 136 in 2000. UP on the east/westline crewbases or change points are: Proviso IL, West Chicago IL (some trains), Clinton IA,Boone IA (short pool), Missouri Valley IA (Clinton long pool), Fremont NE (short pool out of Boone) North Platte NE. Highlighting our commitment to safety, service, communities and our heritage. No, I think Rawlins is still very much used for everything but"shooters" (hotshots), which go all the way to Green River without achange. Forsome railroaders getting in on the other end, actually either end, the first thing they think about is beer. The Hi-Viz policy impacts all employees, not just the ones that are operating trains. A train in the long pool uses one less crew than if it goes to the short pool. His perigrinations may take him intoneighboring parts of Wyoming and New Mexico, possibly Nebraska orKansas, too. Click here to learn about the Unlimited Membership. I spent quite a few summers in Miles City (my dad's home town) during the 1970's and heard Harlowton mentioned quite a few times, but don't recall hearing about Melstone. Maybe an old BN expert can help us here, but didn't BN change some crew districts in Montana to run up to 450 miles? * Denver south: Pueblo* Pueblo south: Trinidad? The 100 mile day was based on how far you would travel in 8 hours at a speed of 12.5 mph. This website is best viewed in Chrome or Safari. Apparently extending crew districts is in E. Hunter Harrison's bag of tricks, which as far as I know now, he hasn't yet pulled out. Official site: BNSF.COM UP on the east/westline crewbases or change points are: Proviso IL, West Chicago IL (some trains), Clinton IA,Boone IA (short pool), Missouri Valley IA (Clinton long pool), Fremont NE (short pool out of Boone) North Platte NE. LION *knows* that Mandan is a crew change point, but Dickinson is so no longer, and the next crew change point is Glendive, MT. Here we highlight stories centered on our safety culture and why it is ingrained in everything we do. Terms Of Use | Notice at Collection | Privacy | 2022 BNSF Railway Company. Five years ago, a conductor on the Southwest Chief initiated a conversation with me when, as I was standing in the aisle outside the room my wife and I occupied, she ran into my arms. Here we focus on topics that illustrate our commitment to where we live and work. Learn how easy it is to become a BNSF customer. Then Casper and Greybull. For pay purposes,a basic day is 130 miles, up from the original 100 mile day for freight. Some railroaders have said the policy incentivizes employees to work while sick or tired, something that Goodson can very much relate to. Then Alliance, NE? Then Alliance, NE? Some are overlays on existing crew districts for certain type trains, intermodal for example. $221/day, with an average annual salary of $70,000 - $82,000. At times they will change within minutes of stopping at the "crosswalk" where employees cross the mainline, and at other times the incoming crew will "tie down" their train on the main-line and the train will wait for literally hours on the main for the outgoing (new) crew. The BNSF classification yard looking east. Use this page to find the right person at BNSF to answer your supplier questions. This line is known as the Seligman Subdivision, and stretches between Winslow, AZ, and Needles, CA, both of which are crew change Rail is the most environmentally efficient mode of surface transportation and at BNSF we are committed to improving the efficiency of our network in a way that benefits both our customers and the environment. Several projects are currently underway to further expand the route's efficiency by adding triple- and even quadruple-track long stretches of the busiest parts of the Transcon. At the time we were having trouble going from Boone to Clinton in 12 hours. "Almost every single day we go to work sick or tired because lineups are terrible," she admitted. Even a 25 MPH scheduled speed would result in an 8 hour trip. Since 2001, BNSF has eliminated districts running to Eugene, Ore., Helena, Mont., Quanah, Texas, Mobile, Ala., and International Falls, Minn. All were on lines sold off, embargoed, or substituted with haulage agreements on another railroad. LIONS with CAMERAS. LA / Barstow/ Needles / Seligman? "The Hi-Viz was only partially responsible for them getting people back. Allan_Love_Jr Aug 26, 2007. Information about the railroad through Flagstaff, Arizona The rail line through Flagstaff is operated by the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway (BNSF). Note that the Puget Sound Extension and the WP were built in the 1905-1910 time frame and train speeds were up significantly from 30 to 40 years earlier. We're proud to tell our story and how we strive to be a trusted partner worthy of your respect. The satellite view clearly shows impressions of a turntable and roundhouse across the highway from the town. Union Pacific's crew change point is Yermo, a few miles east of Barstow. On the CPR, in Canada, the longest crew district is the Brooks Sub. I'd wonder if the average speed of the slowest Milwaukee freights on the Trans-Missouri Division during the first generation diesel era would have been more like 25 MPH as opposed to 12.5 MPH. KINGMAN is an AMTRAK only crew change. (Except when that train gets too long, then it goes back to the short pool.) The contract has major safety implicationsespecially amid North America's dangerous, and sometimes deadly, crude-by-rail boom. LION *knows* that Mandan is a crew change point, but Dickinson is so no longer, and the next crew change point is Glendive, MT. > * BNSF/UP: Denver to Winter Park (Does BNSF use helpers? Can someone in road service choosewhich pool to work in? This doesn't mean that runs were only 100 miles then or 130 miles now. "And as far as working 40 hours per trip, again what they're not telling you is, yes, we may be on a train for seven to eight hours going to our destination or back," she said. Get the top stories in local and regional news, podcast updates, and much more straight to your inbox. No matter what you're shipping, BNSF has a service to meet your needs. Usually, the two crew districts that abutted became one double-ended district. Which meant that many crewsmight not be able to make the far treminal on their HOS. I have to look thru some stuff, but I think they used to change at Melstone, MT. Currently, it's possible to make Clinton and tie up within 6 hours on duty, on a coal train no less. Log in to get the latest information on your invoices, payments and purchase orders. It just affects the waythe train crew's pay is calculated. Now, nearly 100 percent of the route is double-tracked; only two bridges remain single-tracked along the route. In Canada CN began running longer crew districts on the prairies in the 1990's, I think. It is approximately 185 miles long, which was a huge accomplishment back then. BNSF plays a vital role in our economys supply chain, moving freight across our nation every day. Which meant that many crewsmight not be able to make the far treminal on their HOS. I doubt many trains could've made the extra 70 or so miles to Rochelle on their hours. myemployer, any other railroad, company, or person. A minor correction to Agentkid's posting. You there, Mr. Lee? erikem For the moment I still have more tracks, trains, and switches then they do, but that is changing rapidly, as two new rail facilities are planned for this town. Barstow MP 745.9 Home to a very large classification yard and crew change point for the BNSF. The Southern Transcon has been continually enhanced to accommodate the evolving needs of freight and passenger rail. Thanks. On 1 February, BNSF Railway, one of the largest railroad freight networks in North America implemented a new point system attendance policy, criticized by workers and unions representing about. Protests have taken place in cities and towns on BNSF's system, including in Gillette. Shop online for BNSF-branded merchandise. Existing Suppliers may access the Supplier Portal here. "It is important to note that there has been no change in how much time off an employee receives. 16. The Milwaukee Road in the 1970s combined orchanged some crew districts, both on the Puget Sound extension and elsewhere. Find the right person at BNSF to answer your question by filling out our form. Paul MN. Don't miss this look at the history of America's most influential builder of locomotives. Trenton ON was eliminated as an away from home terminal for Toronto East Pool and Smiths Falls West Pool crews. "A Train is a Place Going Somewhere" CP Rail Public Timetable. For nearly 170 years, BNSF has been safely and efficiently transporting freight and helping shape our country's history. Five years ago, a conductor on the Southwest Chief initiated a conversation with me when, as I was standing in the aisle outside the room my wife and I occupied, she ran into my arms. Kevin Knutson is a Gillette-based conductor and union leader who has worked for the railroad for over 40 years. ?La Junta then Dodge City if going to Kansas CityLa Junta then Amarillo if going to Texas or New Mexico.Except AMADEN & DENAMA also change at Boise City because theydo local work. Each employee would be given 30 points for the rest of their career but would be docked points for taking off weekdays (two points), weekends (four points), and holidays (ten points). Points are deducted for taking time off, especially at times that the railroad deems inconvenient. I thought they also did a UPcrew district map too, but I may be thinking about a map on the UP company website. Years ago while overnighting in the Super 8 in Ft Madison, Iowa I had the pleasure to talk to a BNSF (ex Santa Fe) crewman. "We have had a lot of people resign, quit working, and not just Gillette, across the system, because they went and found other jobs. These stories highlight some of our favorite examples of how we apply innovation to railroading. The last time we were in Albany, werode back to the station with a road crew in the van, and I engaged in some conversation with them. She also said some of the claims that BNSF is making, especially in regard to working hours, time off, and leave, are misleading. BNSF crews frequently change crews here at Eola yard in Aurora, IL. A train in the long pool uses one less crew than if it goes to the short pool. I though I saw articles in the mainstream press in the '80's that they were extending crew districts from east of Spokane, WA, across the Idaho panhandle, and over onto the flatland's of Montana. But crew change locations make a logical place to start and end activities. Amazing the mass of RR knowledge amongst the members of this forum. BNSF moves about a third of all intermodal volume in North America. The western end of the Hi-Line should read like this; Interbay (Seattle)-Wentachee, WA.-Hauser, ID-Whitefish, MT.-Shelby, MT.-Havre, MT. erikem Details are as follows: Time: 5:30 p.m., Wednesday, Nov. 9 Location: BLET National Division . U.S. and global economies rely on rail, and BNSF is a vital link in the global supply chain. Many times after the adoptionof the 130 mile day, the terminals didn't change. However, the longestcrew division is CP's Belleville Subdivision from Smiths Falls ONto Toronto Yard (197 track miles) where the Toronto Terminal officially begins or ends. Staying at one of the lodging motels can be interesting, but I wouldnt suggest being too inquiring these days. BNSF crew changes: * Denver east: used to be in Akron, CO, but I think they moved it all the way out to McCook, NE. Unlimited Members, sign in to enjoy sitewide access. Jeff, another hotel where you can rub shoulders with men in road service is the Clarion Hotel in Albany, N.Y. : I thought I read that UP phased out Rawlins, and all trains go through: to Green River from Cheyenne. where are they south of La Crosse? I though I saw articles in the mainstream press in the '80's that they were extending crew districts from east of Spokane, WA, across the Idaho panhandle, and over onto the flatland's of Montana. Here GN 441's train entered the Glasgow Sub of the Montana Division; only 145 more miles to Big Sky Country. "We used to be able to take five weekdays, two weekend days a month off at our discretion and since the implementation of the Hi-Viz policy," she explained. Wondering where the crew change points are on the BNSF from Chicago to the Twin Cities on the Aurora and St. Croix Subs? I've searched the Web and have came up with a few locations for the BNSF. myemployer, any other railroad, company, or person. Log in to the Employee Portal to access safety rulebooks, pay and benefits information, sign up for training opportunities and more. It's grown enough that engineer's need about half of that, even less for conductors. Going the extra mile for our customers and our communities. "However, just last week, I sat down in Guernsey for 27 hours in the hotel waiting to come home.". Since trains are stopping to give one crew rest and to pick up fresh conductors and engineers, adding another "lane" allows trains that have completed their crew change to get moving again and for faster traffic to pass slower traffic more readily. Curiosity about Melstone got to me and found out that it now has a population of 96, down from 136 in 2000. However, the longestcrew division is CP's Belleville Subdivision from Smiths Falls ONto Toronto Yard (197 track miles) where the Toronto Terminal officially begins or ends. I'm not sure if crews run through from Keddie to Stockton, or if there is a crew change at Marysville, CA. BNSF 1859-345 hump engines. Dickinson crews still run locals between New Salem and Beach including the ever growing rail hub of RICHARDTON ND. LA - Barstow - Needles - Kingman - Winslow - Belen - Clovis - Amarillo - Wellington - Kansas City - Ft. Madison - Chicago for the fast trains, some additional crew changes for manifest trains. Canadian Passenger Operations: AMT, Go Transit, VIA, etc. She said the policy isn't compassionate toward employees. Then run pools (through Clinton) to Missouri Valley (hot intermodals only), to Boone (everything else), and pools to Des Moines and Mason City. (Which I don't happen to remember.). BNSF doesnt just move freight; we connect with people and communities along the way. We enable our customers to participate in a wide range of markets in North America and around the world. I have to look thru some stuff, but I think they used to change at Melstone, MT. A fourth-generation Northeast Wyoming native, Hugh joined Wyoming Public Media in October 2021 after studying and working abroad and in Washington, D.C. for the late Senator Mike Enzi. Seems I recall a map in trains a while back showing this. -- Steve Holmes, Steve Holmes Productions (helping companies communicate through award-winning video)Iowa City, IA, USAhttp://www.shpvideo.com My address: sigerson "at" inav "dot" net (replace "" words withsymbols). Back in the 60's, the SP had a run out of Los Angeles to Santa Barbara, CA. According to Knutson, taking time off for a doctor or dental appointment can cost an employee several points. I guess he's got a point because all the trains stopat such places. Bassano was located at almost the exact halfway point on the Sub. BNSF needles to Winslow. I think the Miles City to Harlowton run was one of them. LEARN MORE Tribal Relations. Most of those are of a standard BNSF design; the center piece, providing 23 feet, 6 inches of clearance over the lower main line, is an 87 four-girden deck-plate steel span. Goodson said that if employees work on the weekends, they can earn a single point to add to their total. One thing to remember is there are some long and some short pools. Then in 1972 (after the HOS was changed to 14 hours, Dec. 26, 1970) the company decided to open up an inter-divisional run fromLA to San Luis Obispo), and have us do it in 14 hours, which really worked good. Don't forget BNSF's Southwest Chief line. -Ryan [ Reply To This Message ] [ Quote ] Date: 07/18/07 21:48 Tribal Relations. BNSF crews frequently change crews here at Eola yard in Aurora, IL. Welcome to the BNSF newsroom. By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our, Get our weekly newsletter delivered to your inbox. jeffhergert BNSF Railway, Monon Route passenger trains photo gallery. Why Sign In? BNSF Crew Change Locations In order to set up activities for the BNSF and other railroads, I can't recall anyone putting out any kind of a list for where crew changes take place. Every scheduled train from First Class passenger trains to Fourth Class freights had a scheduled stop for water at Bassano. For some reason, I always thought crew change points were determined by how long it took to get there. Within these districts there are pools that work to/from intermediate terminals, such as Clinton to Marshalltown. Correct, the hours of service were changed as follows: 16 hours to 14 hours on December 26, 1970, 14 hours to 12 hours on December 26, 1972. For 170 years, BNSF has played a vital role in building and sustaining this nation's economy. But when the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway established what became known as the Southern Transcon route in the 1880s, parts of the Southwest were now accessible with relative ease. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Same with RR'ers in TEY service. From the materials that help create products people use every day to the actual finished products, our consistent and cost-effective service takes products of any size to customers when and where they need them. This was indicated by a bold type stripe across the page for every train at Bassano. For some reason, I always thought crew change points were determined by how long it took to get there. It has brought morale down to an all-time low.". BNSF has added a crew change at Kremmling, Colo., on the former Rio Grande, and abolished the change at Las Vegas, N.M. Railroads included in this map: Get the answers to the questions most commonly asked about BNSF. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Whenever I go to the local Amtrak station I enjoy talking with the agent when he is not busy with other people, even telling him that his worst nightmare has come back to him. The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota. At times they will change within minutes of stopping at the "crosswalk" where employees cross the mainline, and at other times the incoming crew will "tie down" their train on the main-line and the train will wait for literally hours on the main for the outgoing (new) crew. Today, 41 years later and the HOS at 12 hours (changed Dec. 26, 1972) the crew usually do not have trouble making it from SLO to LA (which is still inter-divisional, but only a one ended pool). "The cutoff made traversing New Mexico with freight easier by eliminating the steep grades of the Raton Pass from the route and the use of extra locomotive power to make the trip.". Today, 41 years later and the HOS at 12 hours (changed Dec. 26, 1972) the crew usually do not have trouble making it from SLO to LA (which is still inter-divisional, but only a one ended pool). ), then Ogden? Some are overlays on existing crew districts for certain type trains, intermodal for example. Here there be cats. Things changed since Sept 11, 2001. Or even less: As late as the 1990s, there were still a few crew changes in the middle-of-nowhere, consisting of only a few sidings, a crew dormitory, and a 24-hour lunchroom. BNSFs Economic Development team can help guide you through the process of expanding, developing or selecting a site. I'm sure that longer crew districts in other places are coming Our community is FREE to join. On the CPR, in Canada, the longest crew district is the Brooks Sub. Men in chain gang freightservice preferred being called in McCombfor a run to Gwin, since it was farther than a run to New Orleans. Thanks in advance for your help.Ken Stitzel wrote: You do not have permission to delete messages in this group. Subscribers, sign in to access exclusive content. Jeff:Thanks for the explanations. .so far" thread who said that through frieghts now use only one crew, but way freights are still supplied with crews on each Sub. At Galesburg we have 2 westbound stack trains, a couple of eastbound stackers, eastbound P train, plus the roadrailers, and vehicle trains. The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of. We do not sell train simulator software. (Trains that continue to Ft Worth changenext at Childress but the Dalhart to Childress and Childressto Ft Worth segments are also over ambitious. The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of. I find it ironic that the MILW expandend some of their districts just as deferredmaintenance caused speeds to drop. > > UP crew changes:> * Denver east: no idea> * Denver south: Pueblo> * Denver west: Bond, then Grand Junction> * Denver north: Cheyenne> * Pueblo south: same as BNSF, presumably, No, only one crew Pueblo to Dalhart. We all have one thing in common: we worked at BNSF Railway or one of its predecessor railroads.
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