Max. version of the .375 supermag (1.61 in.) Why Marlin didnt make a 336 in .357 I will never understand. I always assumed it was so you didnt lose your rifle when making a Sabre charge and hauling ass on your horse. The rifle shot better after reaming that it did before. It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. Kept that gun quite a few years, took it out to shoot every now and then. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. Remington is the only manufacturer of brass for this caliber, but Hornady, Speer, Sierra, Remington, Winchester, and several other manufacturers make bullets that work well for the cartridge. Great for when wearing gloves. Discuss. It shoots pretty good. Of the 32 models of 357 lever gun they offer, there are precisely zero units currently available for sale. They were hell bent on making me reload. Available with matte finish on steel frames and a highly polished finish on hardened brass frames, these elegantly simple rifles feature 22" round barrels, fully adjustable folding leaf rear sight and brass bead front sights we use on the lever actions, a drilled and tapped provision for optional scope use, walnut front and rear furniture, a But its the old Supply and demand scenario. From what I hear the Henry trigger is better though. I dont have a horse ..so the ring comes off. Unfortunately it caught the Remlin disease and had to be sent to the ship for some warranty work. Im going to be very careful dipping into a little bit of political prognostication, but I think most of us would acknowledge that gun-banners have a list of the guns they hate most (cough AR cough) and that John Waynes Cowboy Rifle is way down at the bottom of that list. As Im not a horseman, I didnt think much of it beyond that. Significantly disappointed and I reopened another repair ticket. Thats info that will come in handy. I use regular .38 Special/.357 Magnum dies to load my .357 Maximum ammo. Remington introduced the .357 Maximum cartridge in 1983 to considerable fanfare from the shooting press. Todays edition also features a falling block safety, so it can be carried loaded. The one i have now has bllard rifling which is accurate with jacketed or lead bullets. It was too intense and very finicky. Reloading is a good alternative if you can get the supplies, but from what I read things like primers are becoming harder to find as well. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. I have a old JM Marlin lever rifle in .357, Its one of those rifles that has been out there and used before I got it. It's accuracy is outstanding. Once that word gets around, Henry and Brazilian made Rossi levers, and even Uberti and other Italian made Lever guns will gain more of the market share. Maybe this shortage will get more people into the handloading business. I would also point out that IHMSA was a. I had owned two previously and traded them off as they were great with jacketed bullets but not lead (microgroove). The 350 Legend is faster, more powerful, and can be used in more guns than the .357 Magnum. Through the years, the company continued to expand and . The cartridge made its debut in 1983 in the Ruger New Model Blackhawk single-action revolver. Since the rules have changed again effective this fall I have came up with another case based on the 444 marlin necked to .375 at 1.8 inches long. You do want to make sure your rounds are flatnose, hollowpoint or LeverEvolution in a tube magazine. The 357 out-paces the 44-40 and 32-20 by a fair margin. .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA. And one 1886 Winchester 45-70 takedown model, ( rare). The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close (r) range, inside about 150 yards. Here in Ohio legal deer hunting rifle cartridges are straightwall cases from .357 to .50. The .357 Maximum was an effort to give you .357 Magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. The more the merrier. I had only seen photos (prints?) SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, Casting Your Own Bullets for Lever-Action Rifles, The Staying Power of the .257 Roberts Cartridge, 10mm Firepower: Springfield XD-M Elite 3.8 Compact Pistol Review, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now, A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Finding ammo can be tough for any caliber these days, but if youve already got a stash of .38 and .357 for your handguns, youve already got that covered. Working range would be 50-70 yards. With todays rail-mounted optics, that makes the 1894 CSBL tactical and practical, with the addition of an XS Sights Lever Rail and sight set. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. The .450 will really put a wallop on your shoulder. 38 Special full metal jacket round will hit with the force of 189 pounds of pressure per square foot at a . The only guy I knew who shot 357 Max had a Ruger SBH and a Marlin lever gun re-chambered for the Max cartridge. It was introduced in 1935, and its use has since become widespread. No joke. I love Lever action rifles, and own Rossis, Savage 99s, Winchesters , ( 92 and 94s), Marlins, and Henrys, in 357 magnum and 44 Rem Mag. It has always had a good trigger but now it has one of those Ive fired it about 50,000 times trigger jobs and is as smooth and sweet as any trigger Ive owned. The .357 Maximum went away. Go to GB or GI and find yourself a Browning B-92 in .357. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. This gun has a hardwood stock and forend, case colored receiver, and 22" barrel. No one else offers the wide range of options, steel picatinny rails, and barrel fluting that MGM does. Couldnt seem to understand that I couldnt and didnt care to at this moment. So without further adiou "Welcome". (left) vs. .357 Magnum (Right). Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. Paper patch an almost pure lead 380 to 400 gr bullet and it will do a number on an critter waaaaay out there even propelled with black powder but you have to know where your rifle shoots at what yardage. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" The Apostle Paul in Romans 1:22 . Problem is, because of the pandemic, and an election year, like all the ammo, there isnt any to be had, in the Pacific Northwest anyway. You can boost the Unique up to around 11-12 grains, as I recall, and your gun should handle it fine with that bullet. Own Stock. I would love to have a new Henry Big Boy X in 357 Magnum.. For me, a Max levergun would only be desirable if it would cycle Mags and possibly Specials as well. As the sport grew, the single shots came into their own as did fancy, short bolt guns, but a quarter of the program was always with a stock revolver. With higher-performance loads, the .357 carbine almost delivers real rifle ballistics. Id buy another Henry in a heartbeat, if my gun safe werent replete with levers already. That keeps spent brass out of the eye of the user and today, allowing for easy mounting of a scope. Yes, they can, of course, be fired farther, but the design, mass and speed of the bullets are what really determine effective range. JWM, I too would love to have pairs of 357 and 44 mags. If you have some, enjoy them. In short order, there was a Ruger Blackhawk Maximum and ammo to go with it.Ruger was not the only party on the Maximum bandwagon. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. Nobody cared about the AR-15. Thanks to everyone for beginning my education about lever guns! by groschen1936 Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:30 am, Post I will admit to some bias my first handgun was a S&W Model 19 and, for many years, it was my only handgun. Yes I had one.. perry42 Nov 23, 2018 #12 I would think the old school lever lovers and the black rifle guys could come together on this. Perfect for those states with straight wall case limits and/or overall cartridge case length limits where in most cases the .45 cal. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. rounds much more than the .22s. There are even night sights available from aftermarket suppliers. You can even shoot .38 Special for some of the easiest long gun plinking youll ever do. This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. The evidently know a 22 rifle or shotgun by sight. Lil Gun is proving to be one of the very best powders for maximum performance in any barrel length, while AA-1680 is still gaining a little more speed per inch in 24 barrels. The regular Marlin 1894C is priced at around $700. I wish I had known Hornady was going to discontinue them, I would have stocked up on them. As most revolver . My M19 was made in 1976. The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. I'd hoped the cartridge would be well received by the market, that Marlin would act on chambering their Model 1894 lever action for the .357 Max, but few seemed to appreciate what the cartridge had to offer. I have seen a gun blow up (not mine) and therefore I am very careful when I reload. My findings are three of us used 357 mag out of 2 Rossi lever at 20 inch and one Marlin with 16.25 to hunt blacktails and elk. .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. As they are harder to find, I switched to PPU 158 JHP with little change for sighting in. Optimize the potentials of the .357 MAGnum by long rethroating the factory chamber. Because the .357 Maximum in a Contender comes close to .35 Rem. Just ask! Supply and demand. Given its performance for me in those cases it seems it would make an excellent powder for use in the 357 in rifles. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:09 pm, Post by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:56 pm, Post It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. In an effort to keep the playing field dead level for all competitors, they rigidly adhered to the no-modification standard. Also, the Contender comes in longer barrel lengths than the 7.5 and 10.5 inch barrels that Ruger made the Blackhawk with for the .357 Rem. HINT: Academy has Henry Steel Big Boys in stock today, July 29th, for $730. Yeah, what ever it is you want has a magical mystical ability of always being someplace else. #17. Til inauguration day and beyond, demand will likely increase. It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. It downloads well, unlike H110/296. Since that time, many believe that the issues stem from using light-loads consisting of 110 and 125 grain (gr.) Both were chronographed in the same gun (8" Colt Python). Nice single shot rifle. Thats a LOL. Through my industry connections, I heard plenty of finger-pointing about metallurgy and propellant choices, but the ultimate outcome was that the revolver market for this cartridge simply dried up. While many manufacturers produce copper jacketed or semi-jacketed bullets, as well as spire point for better accuracy at longer ranges, you can cast your own bullets to load this caliber. can you find sace for a backpack sized tote? RETURN POLICY: Intrepid Shooting Sports will accept returns on firearms that arrive other than advertised in the listing. So if you want to shoot Max, Mag, and Specials; it is best to get a single shot. The 357 Maximum was invented to compete in that contest (most likely?). If you compare a 16" 30-30 to a 16" .357 Mag, the difference is even smaller. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:32 pm, Post H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. Nostalgia isnt relevance. Max. . The rifle should be able to shoot all the standard lead .357 bullets, including the 148 gr wadcutters. My revolvers and levers arent in .357 Mag. Then there is the 40-90 Sharps straight 3 1/4" that can be formed from Bell .405 basic cases. Actually prefer 30-30 to any handgun round. Expect this one to make a comeback, like the 10mm. Due to the additional costs of internet sales, shipping, etc., our internet pricing may vary from our In-Store price. I think it helps ballistic uniformity in this long, skinny case and slow propellants. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Another Marlin not to miss is the Model 1894 CST, which features a black pistol grip stock and stainless finish. I shot 180 hardcast lead both from Buffalo Bore and HSM bear loads. After the hunts are over is the best time to send barrels in for customizing! But I just couldnt ever wrap my brain around spending enough on a lever action to buy two or three semi-auto rifles. No turnstyle safety on top of the bolt to remove. Like Chris, Doc, and Tycer said - you've already got the 35 Remington - which is, I believe the question was "does anyone make a Levergun for the 357 Maximum". https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/henry-big-boy-steel-357-magnum-38-special-lever-action-rifle. Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. There have been discussions in the past about the comparison between the .357 Magnum and the .30 Carbine cartridges. Most 350 Legend bullets have a higher sectional density which means more penetration than the .357 Magnum. Lever action rifles are fun. by bgmkithaca Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:18 pm, Post A .357 bang stick would certainly be cheaper to keep fed for silhouette shooting vs my Henry in 45 Colt. The big problem for me was the shape of the Contender grip which caused my hand to shake after just a few shots. 008-E503841 | MTM. The resulting airspace does no good. by AJMD429 Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 pm, Post Maybe some lighter .30-30 loads would be better, but .357 would be so good. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. And as far as lever action rifles in pistol calibersthey have never been irrelevant over their 150 year history. Lever actions are a hoot to shoot. This permits me to throat the MAGnum barrel with a proper minimum diameter cylindrical throat that: Given a long minimum diameter throat, a MAGnum gives better accuracy with standard MAG ammo for those wanting to shoot .357 MAGnum and .38 Special loads while also being able to essentially duplicating .350 Legend factory loadings. The option for a MAG chamber lets you load published .357 MAXimum loads in the MAGnum case: Henry wisely chose the old, original closed breech barrel chamber with a very short forcing cone, as opposed to the current overly long forcing cone chamber that is essentially the same as a "shot out" barrel used by nearly all other manfacturers. I don't think it is possible due to OAL differences. by elmo123 Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:11 pm, Post Bare essentials. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The action and trigger needed work, so that cost another $125 from my local Gunsmith in Oregon. We will take a look back at a stock revolver and its misunderstood cartridge called the .357 Maximum.Originally conceived by the late Elgin Gates and called the .357 SuperMag, the new round was very straightforward. It appears to be a rimless 357 Maximum. Apples should be in pie. I passed up a .357 94 trapper several years ago it was a few $ more than I had on me and I couldnt get the seller to budge. .44-40. I have become a fan. You can shoot 357 Mags through it. H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. In the case of multiple buyers for one item, customers will be given 24 hours to complete a transaction, after which firearms will be made available to the next buyer. My current 357 carbine is a Marlin 94 from 1998. It packs or stows easily and are very difficult to find lately. That 2000 fps 357 mag load is 1100 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. This means that hunters are able to control the firearm much better, making more accurate and effective shots. In a handgun .357 is the upper level of my comfort zone. or, H&R BARREL ONLY and $150 check or money order. Most were returned to the factory and their purchase price refunded. No one currently makes guns chambered in the cartridge.Looking back on the whole incident is very interesting, and there is much to be learned. $800 was a great price.. They were discontinued for quite awhile and JMs were going for $1200 or more. It can shoot 38 special 357 magnum and 357 maximum. NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS: Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for . Seems to me thats just about the perfect lever-action carbine caliber. Thats exactly the sort of info i was looking for. Long throated .357 MAGnum barrels let you create space in the MAGnum case for the same powder charge rates used in factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! When the gun fired, it behaved like all revolvers in that the powder charge in those long chambers burned at a very high temperature. Try it you won't regret it. It took only a few rounds to actually erode (read cut) that section. Dont believe me?? rounds border on simply dumb when the .357 Maximum is so much more accurate and easier to shoot accurately with its moderate recoil. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. This load generates very close to the SAAMI max of 35k psi. .44 Henry rimfire. Also, those hotter loaded ammunitions usually over boast about their velocity. Henry is finally putting out some side loading gate models, while still retaining the muzzle end magazine tube, so as to make them easier and safer to unload. This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. And dont let anyone tell you that lever actions are slow. Shop 357 Magnum ammo online for hunting, self defense, and target practice. His just naturally pointed well, I didnt have to work at all. Here's the 357 Maximum story: Back in the 1980's there was a silhouette competition for pistols out to 200 yards. Instead of repeating all the details, Ill just post the link below. I REALLY wish Mossberg would make that hideous SPX Tactical in .357. Gun Genius. The results are: . Best of both worlds. The original factory loading was a relatively fragile 158-grain JHP similar to those Remington loaded in the .357 Magnum. I would like to try Reloader 7 with bullets heavier than 180 grains. Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. I have. This is not an issue for single-shot firearms, and the long bullet cleared the rifling in the pressure barrel and our T/C barrels. 38 special. I would add Chiappa Alaskan in .357 Magnum to the mix. It should be noted the original loadings of the 357 mag were to 45,000 psi, but when the smaller framed 357's came on the market the pressure of the loads was reduced to 35,000 psi. I took photos and pointed out the issue but still didnt fix it. of rifles attached to horn or pommel and carried in a shuck of some sort. Its pleasant to shoot even with .357 mag. by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. Cloudbuster I agree with Dave. Designed to use popular handgun calibers, it allowed shooters to carry a single caliber of ammo. Build a Ruger#1. Many would consider it a good deer cartridge, but when used in a handgun, it would be rather marginal for that purpose. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. Ruger, super Blackhawk 357, maximum 10 1/2 inch barrel in excellent condition and fire very little comes with original box and papers. Can we get some more ideas? My factory Maxi is a 1982 also. Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. H110. .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). I have shot a buddys 357, think it was Italian, a couple times as he is into Cowboy Action..not my thing but fun to watch! almost 1782 psi less than 9mm 4" barrel pressure. Yes, it was an easy one to fill the bill with. Henry is close with SPX but went plastic stock.DOH! Thanks for reading! Hornady XTP 158 gr. Rossi makes various models starting at about $500. Granted, it comes rather dear at $1,214 MSRP, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, you should be able to pick it up for much less. Suppessor equiped lever guns with Subsonic plinker ammo are a hoot to shoot. Same 357 MAXIMUM 180 gr load in an 18" rifle barrel has a MP= 3111 psi vel 1663 FPS 357 Mag 158 gr 13 gr Win 296 1719 FPS 14" barrel MP= 2586 Should be Ev0-9 safe especially with a Triad Mount. Marlin made a name for themselves offering an improved version of the Winchester action starting in the 1880s. Show Only Guns Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Nosler JFP, LSWC, Sierra JHC, Nosler Part. Winchester Firearms 1873 Deluxe Sporting 357 Mag / 38 Spl Lever-Action Rifle with Color Case Hardene. I haven't dismissed the idea but I'll research the best rate-of-twist for it. . Just like the CSBL, it has a 16- barrel length and an 8-shot tube magazine, an enlarged loop and swivel studsbut this model also adds a threaded barrel for adding a suppressor. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:28 pm, Post Mine berms, or scrounge for scrap lead. This was a blue-collar sport that could be pursued at relatively modest cost, using handloads in a rock-bottom minimum battery of one powerful revolver. If you want a short-action levergun with similar ballistics, consider: You can throw the entire reloading setup (minus powder and primers and bullets) into a cargo pocket. Found a gunsmith who examined it, he got it working again. Many Max shooters (myself included) find poor accuracy with magnum cases.
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