For you build tombs for the prophets your ancestors killed, and you decorate the monuments of the godly people your ancestors destroyed. I dont believe some of the Catholic doctrine is true, but all have belief in things they believe and unbelief in things they dont believe. If you believe that attending an IFB church is the only way to hear the true gospel and get saved, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 36. Abortion is murder. 37. On the Arminianist view the church I go to now teaches from a biblical standpoint that salvation can still be lost. Dont throw your pearls to pigs! But what He hates about us is the pride and arrogance in us. They try there best to live for Christ and to give God the glory for everything. I forgave and praise the lord in my life forgiveness was indeed profitable. Amen! I wanted to marry my boyfriend, but I want to fix him first. 12. The sacredness of human personality is evident in that God created man in His own image and is mindful of him, and in that Christ died for man; therefore every individual possesses dignity and is worthy of respect and Christian love. He is the Head of the church. Even though I dont believe the churchs teachings anymore, Im very grateful for the care and support I received from the Baptists growing up. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Believers will be caught up to be with the Lord prior to the seven years of tribulation, and at the end of the tribulation Christ will return with His saints to establish His thousand-year reign on the earth (I Thessalonians 4:13-18; Titus 2:13; I Thessalonians 1:10; Revelation 3:10; Zechariah 14:4-11; Revelation 19:11-16, 20:1-6; Psalm 89:3-4). If you party, DO NOT drink. The pastor pointed out (over the course of his long 2 hour sermon LOL) that a shepherd doesnt use a rod and staff to beat his sheep but to prod and guide them. (John 3:36; Romans 14:4-12;2 Corinthians 4:2; Titus 1:9), Local church membership is restricted to individuals who give a believable testimony of personal faith in Christ and have publicly identified with Him in believer's baptism. (Ephesians 2:8-10; John 1:12; I Peter 1:18-19). I love devotions with the Lord. If you might confuse KJV with KJB its the same thing but its a preference on how people might want to call it. Like I said, Im doing repair work. Due to the nature of the churches being independentin their autonomy, a percentage of what is believed, practiced or condemned by Independent Baptists (or IndependentFundamental Baptists, or Bible Believing Baptists, or IndependentBible Believing Baptists, or Unaffiliated Baptists, or Unaffiliated IndependentBaptists - just to Why do people think that I dont have time to pray for loved ones simply because I have this site up? No government should interfere with the local church's preaching, activities, and ministry. Yes, we have strife and faults and hypocrites. [4][5], A split in the New IFB occurred in January 2019, after Donnie Romero, pastor at Stedfast Baptist Church-Fort Worth (SBC), resigned after it was revealed he had hired prostitutes, smoked marijuana and gambled. Matthew 6:14-15 is a warning not a command. What if it had been biting you for 5, 10, 15, or (in my case) 25 years and you managed to finally escape would you go back or send a love one to pet it? "[3], The New IFB was formed by Anderson and other Baptist pastors in 2017 in an attempt to revive what they perceived older independent Baptist churches once represented. You can read some of them in the comments section and in the testimonial section here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. N/A Praise the lord for giving it to us. [5], New IFB pastors have been the subjects of controversy on numerous occasions. You hurt the cause of Christ regardless your intentions and you should be ashamed of yourself, especially if you think this is the proper way to obey the two commandments the Lord Jesus said were the most important. Thousands of people, including myself, beg to differ. Even I believe that if you are living in sin you are getting to the point where you are eventually will lose your salvation. My mother doesnt wear fancy earrings. If you think that the KJV is inspired, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 2. Christ suffered and I wish you had broken up your last paragraph into multiple paragraph everything runs together. To the author, I hope youll be okay someday and if you can find a way to dig out that root I think youll find peace. The pastor explained forgiveness and that Jesus has already forgiven his sin on the cross and if I choose to not forgive than I am believing in my heart Jesus didnt die for his sin. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but dont follow their example. Grow your faith in a less toxic environment. This led to calls to evict Stedfast Baptist Church from its location at a strip mall in Watauga, Texas. Baptist Churches Since 1975 Are From the Ministry of a Man of Whom it Has Been Said: You are probably the most childish acting preacher This group is for fellowship, sharing of resources, devotional thoughts, posting of sermons, news of interest, ministry ideas, missionary/church links, KJV verse photos, and general edification. Yes, believers disagree, theres nothing wrong with that. Smoking in itself is not sin but I do agree that smoking can cause teeth decay, lung cancer, breast cancer, etc. There are a couple places but, they're all pretty much much secular and worldly. If you go to a church that sings/plays Just As I Am at the end of every service, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 21. Jesus said I came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.. Judah has always been with God. All people need to do is humbly ask for one. Would the lost or questioning feel that even if someone is attacking your comments, that youre setting an example that they could adopt? I have no opinion on this Also no one can hide hypocrisy and iniquity. Members come into the church personally, individually, and freely. Pastors daughter did my hair and cleaned my dress with baby wipes. 39. 50. Each church is autonomous, or self-governing, and contains all human authority for leadership within its congregation. Hypocrites! The Pastor leads, feeds, guides, and guards the church at the direction of Christ. 23. And that boy who has grown up in Sunday School (because I brought him in my car every week) is now in 6th grade and has experienced the concept of unconditional love and promises that are kept things which would otherwise have been foreign. 19 How blind! when you run into her at Wal*Mart. 49. 16 Blind guides! Jesus forgave me and Im going to choose to forgive others regardless if they want it. Why would I even send a lost loved one to church instead of sharing the gospel with them for that matter? (2 Cor. Your happy mega churches do too. If you confuse the KJV with the KJB, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 3. We dont think rational thought is dangerous. Oh well, maybe another discussion. Gods will was for me to forgive. This is the first and great commandment. Most pastors skip virtue, usually because they just dont know any better. Baptists believe the Bible and strive to live according to its teaching. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 44. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. If you believe that you will be rewarded or punished according to whether or not youve tithed faithfully, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 47. WebBaptist beliefs are seen as belonging to three parties: General Baptists who uphold Arminian soteriology, Particular Baptists who uphold Calvinist soteriology, and Independent Baptists, who might embrace a strict version of either Arminianism or Calvinism, but are most notable for their fundamentalist positions on Biblical 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. Hmmmmm interesting.I will bash ifb, while I mix truth and error interesting.. Nice going Steve If you believe going to the movies is a sin but not renting movies or watching them on TV, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 10. But I still think that every Christian should spend some time in an IFB church. The members were so sweet to us. (Genesis 2:24; Genesis 19:5, 13; Genesis 26:8-9; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:26-29; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8; Hebrews 13:4). And as the word independent implies, we are not all alike. I am a pastor of a Baptist church, but rather than call myself INDEPENDENT, I call myself unaffiliated with the other Baptist Churches. I was told that I could not work in one of my passionate ministries, infant, toddler, and 3-4 year olds because of something I did in my past 14 years ago and pastor told me I have to prove myself first. 22. Gospel Light Baptist Church, Albany, Georgia. Thank God for grace! Very few men are qualified to be pastors using your interpretation of scripture. If you think that other than suits and ties for men is too casual for Sundays While I dont believe that you must dress up for church with suits and ties, however, I do believe we should honor God in His house by dressing up. The reality is the ONLY TRUE CHURCH is the church that PRACTICES BIBLICAL TEACHINGS and NOT THAT OF MAN-MADE TEACHINGS because THEY ARE AGAINST THE BIBLE because I do ask the question that why there are so many churches. 3 1/2 years ago we were addicted to marijuana, cigarettes, alcohol, and pills. Im sure that this was meant to be funny but I can tell that you seem bitter. THESE SERMON OUTLINES By Michael D. ONeal, Founder and Pastor Since 1986 Of. Then you have churches with no standards . Jack Hyles came to our church and you would have thought Jesus himself was preaching! 38. I dont think it applies to all IFB churches, the ones I grew up in didnt do some of these, but the rest definitely apply. Im told its because when u abandon the real truth, theres hardly any hope. WebSecond, it is Fundamental. Preachers should not put their congregation under constraint. Sometimes it makes you wonder if they have EVER read/learned anything from Jesus! Or deciding not to clap for special music? However, it wasnt Baptists that ordained him and of the IFB folks I know, they are lukewarm to the Scofield bible. Me and my boyfriend were going to break up unless there was hope for change. Correction is my discernment. Sons of vipers! are the result of sin and poor choices, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 46. ), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 41. 10 And dont let anyone call you Teacher, for you have only one teacher, the Messiah. The New IFB's website lists its core doctrines as salvation by faith alone, once saved always saved, King James Bible-only, the Trinity, soul-winning, "hard" preaching, prewrath post-tribulation rapture, and opposition of worldliness, Calvinism, dispensationalism, liberalism, and Zionism. 45. You should read my article on that: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/, Dont get me wrong but tithing is still scriptural, even within the New Testament. If you believe that perfection is something to strive for and/or attain this side of heaven,you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I assure you that Im living exactly how God wants me to be living and Im doing it outside of the IFB (yes it can be done LOL). I believe this passage is a description of the IFB church Im a member of. I know the answers now. Whether u believe its talking about judah/Ephraim or not. Using guitars in church is too liberal That was not the case at the church I grew up in when the last pastor I had when he came to Mountain Church of Christ when he first arrived (which is instrumental though membership is small). If you feel compelled to go door to door witnessing (or were compelled to visit a nursing home as a teen), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 28. I hope whatever poor experience you had hasnt taken you away from the faith. People need Jesuswhats the big deal? The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. OMG! 8. I agree that God can use anything and anyone to reach people, but I can guarantee that the IFB has ulterior motives. (Acts 2:42), It is a betrayal of the unity of believers based upon sound doctrine of the historic Christian Faith. I get the vibe that you were alienate by IFB movement at some point, as were a lot of us, but dont try to use that as an excuse to go on a crusade against fellow believers. An independent Baptist Missionary (24 years in Romania) has posted a site The Laymans Biblical Handbook. More than 200 doctrines at http://www.thelaymansbiblicalhandbook.com/ 1. They had made an idol out of church attendance. If your denomination knocked on their door im sure they wouldnt have gotten saved and the helped they needed. So spontaneous but like it was planned. We teach that baptism is necessary for salvation as I get this quote from the King James Version from John 3:5; Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised bodily and that He ascended to Heaven and is now exalted at the right hand of God, where, as our High Priest, He fulfills the ministry of Representative, Intercessor, and Advocate (Acts 1:9-10; Hebrews 9:24, 7:25; Romans 8:34; I John 2:1-2). We will never attain that on this side. Its our personal decisions that cause us to who to hell though most of their practices are not biblical, especially the devotions to the Virgin Mary as they especially have her as the intercessor. If you believe that secular psychology is worldly/sinful, but dont think that other areas of medicine are OK, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 45. You might around the world wherever our Lord directs. At one point in my life I would have agreed with 45 of your 55 litmus tests, plus a few others. Tithing is also commanded in the bible and we are to give because he loves us and give with a joyful heart. We believe in the reality of the person of Satan and that he and the fallen angels wage a spiritual warfare against the plan and purposes of God (John 13:2; Acts 5:3; Ephesians 6:11-12). Church membership is a necessary privilege for believers who follow Christ. The pastor our local congregation is the preaching elder and most Churches of Christ avoid the term, Pastor, when addressing their ministers. No one leaves on good terms unfortunately. Yes but this is my concern about the IFB beliefs and I understand this was written to make it funny. Im going back to my independent baptist church where there is no compromising. We believe that any form of homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, beastiality, incest, fornication, adultery, and pornography is a sinful perversion of God's original intent for a physical relationship between a husband and wife. Theres a lot that is biblical in your post that we should want to do and some not biblical and therefore should abstain from practice. WebWARNING!!!! Also, please scroll up for additional information regarding your objections which Ive responded to ad nauseam. N/A We did 2 weeks of counseling and got married at the end of our last session. 19:13-15. I can use scripture to instruct me how to forgive others and God told me that it is profitable. I loved him, but I hated the way he treated me. If your pastor is telling you otherwise hes a heretic. I didnt condemn other version by saying Kjv is inspired. Jesus saved by dying on the cross in my husbands place. Believing its a sin is one thing, believing its an unforgivable sin is another. I remember our pastor asking us if we could forgive each other, and praise the lord we forgave each other for the offenses committed against each other. 32 Go ahead and finish what your ancestors started. 24 Blind guides! King James is the inspired word of God While I do like the old King James Bible but King James Only is wrong because its misleading and its legalism. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. Apart from Him we can do nothing. If the people in your church are truly humble, forgive easily, and believe that everyone is worthy of grace, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. If you laugh (snicker, sneer, roll your eyes, etc.) Thanks. There isn't much out there on the web. Also, we lived in a free Appartement with food stamps. If you (like Jason) come to this site to criticize sarcasm by hypocritically using sarcasm, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. 36. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ accomplished our redemption through His finished work on the cross as a representative, vicarious, substitutionary sacrifice; and that our justification is made sure by His literal, physical resurrection from the dead (Romans 3:24-25; I Peter 2:24; Ephesians 1:7; I Peter 1:3-5). (Matthew 28:19-20; Romans 6:4; 1 Corinthians 11:23-32), Every individual, believer and unbeliever, possesses the God-given privilege of free will having the liberty to choose what to believe. Any ways God is good and can use any church to reach anyone it all depends on if you as an individual will receive his free gift of salvation, because God is that powerful. Wherever there are people, there is sin. Im glad they didnt because Id probably be ashamed admitting Im a liar. If you think that the hymnal in the pew is inspired by God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 23. Believe it or not I can find time to pray while at the same time not sending my loved ones to an abusive church. And yet, they honor the Scofield Bible!!! A IFB member knocked on my door one Saturday and invited us to church. Deacons help the pastor care for the flock so he can give priority to prayer and the ministry of the Word. Just please be sure that your judging is fair. 5. Or preferring the KJV? All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: We believe that man was created in the image and likeness of God, but that in Adam's sin the race fell, inherited a sinful nature, and became alienated from God; and therefore man is totally depraved, and, of himself, utterly unable to remedy his lost conditin (Genesis 1: 26- 27; Romans 3: 2 2-23; Ephesians 2 : 1-3, 12). Inspired by Jeff Foxworthys You Might Be A Redneck IfI came up with a similar list of items for the IFB. I have an old high school friend here with me who started visiting churches. Generally its the Pastor, or Preaching Elder or Minister, that has to attend multiple services because he has to preach the sermon. People to Be Executed", "Deported NZ pastor Logan Robertson shows no remorse for harassing 'sissy' Muslims", "Police investigating Auckland pastor who threatened homosexuals", "Advocates urge supporters to ask landlord to evict Stedfast Baptist", "North Texas church that called for execution of gay people won't be evicted", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Independent_Fundamentalist_Baptist&oldid=1142179437, Baptist denominations established in the 21st century, Anti-Islam sentiment in the United States, Organizations that oppose LGBT rights in the United States, Christian organizations established in 2017, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 28 February 2023, at 23:30. If you look down on people who are divorced, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 38. Many churches are about the money, as is some of their pastors. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Interesting that Steve begins his response by taking the Lords name in vainmmmmmmm, very interesting, but hes found the truth, riiiiight. Refusing to eat at a restaurant because they serve alcohol Theres nothing wrong with eating at a restaurant you just cant order alcohol, thats all. I was married when I attended before and now as a divorced woman, I know I probably would be looked down upon. This is an independent fundamental Baptist program that has chapters in churches all across the country. If you believe that using guitars in church is too liberal, yet you listen to patch the pirate who uses guitars, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 14. 55. I dont think having two revivals a year is a bad thing as they word states we should continue to get together as believers. You can be saved and live however, but there will be consequences the saddest consequence of this behavior is your relationship with God will be Hindered greatly or little. Attending all three, in my opinion, is optional. We believe that the Holy Spirit is the Person who reproves the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment; and that He is the Supernatural Agent in regeneration, indwelling all believers and sealing them unto the day of redemption (John 16:8-11; II Corinthians 3:6; Romans 8:9; Ephesians 1:13-14). Although some Independent Baptist churches refuse affiliation with Baptist denominations, various Independent Baptist Church denominations have been founded. We didnt go, but they came back the next week. Pastor Wilkerson was the one and ONLY pastor who allowed me to work passionately in what ever church ministry I chosen. 4 How can you think of saying to your friend, Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye, when you cant see past the log in your own eye? Its my calling and my ministry. If you think that you should cut your vacation short so that you can make it back in time for Sunday morning Sunday School, but think its OK that your pastor miss a Sunday or two because hes on vacation, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 5. My writing tends to be somewhat heavy and serious so every once in a while I like to add some humor to lighten things up a bit. If your church has a tract rack outside the sanctuary, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 22. Stil fit. I praise the lord for that because if I sin I dont have to announce it to anyone but my Heavenly Father and he is faithful and just to forgive me. His mom, Dorothy Chrisman, was a teacher at the academy run by Fairhaven. Come and join. More than one earring per ear for women is worldly I dont agree that multiple earrings per ear for women is worldly as long its not fancy. When this life is over, it doesnt matter! (Acts 20:7, Hebrews 10:24-25). I personally fall under Southern Missionary Baptist, and literally had questions in regards to my recent visits at an IFB church. Gods people are the Jews.. from Jew-dajudah. We recognize the ordinances of baptism by immersion in water and the Lord's Supper as a Scriptural means of testimony for local churches in this age (Matthew. Yes, I remember that. Is there any perfect , no. We dont believe if you get rid of all the sin in your life youll be a completely healthy person. N/A I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. If your church allows no outside group of singers to perform at your church for fear that not all of their individual theologies line up with the churchs you might be an independent fundamental Baptist. People are more willing to change their ways when confronted in love rather then with criticism and bitterness. God Bless. 3. We believe that the New Testament church is a local assembly of baptized believers who have voluntarily joined themselves toge therto carry out the Great Commission. Im still separate I have just decided to sin. 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word. It seemed more like an attack on what the Bible says about life than on a denomination. I believe tithing is good and God blesses those who tithe. The Baptist Distinctives are easy to remember using the acronym B.A.P.T.I.S.T.S. Anybody who opposes the IFB teaching is bitter Cant say that because anybody who opposes BIBLICAL teaching is spiritually blind because they dont know the truth. 2Co 2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; You said we dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. All fellowship should be grounded in doctrine. If you have others please feel free to share in the comments section, 1. Our only Head is the Lord Jesus Christ and our only headquarters is heaven. We just look for a biblical church to go to. Mental health issues is a result of sin and poor choices same position with my belief concerning IFB 48. What a typical, legalistic comment from Jason. Im truly sorry for those who were mistreated and sorry if bitterness is hurting you now. If you believe that the wine referred to in the Bible is nothing more than fruit of the vine (AKA grape juice), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 26. 6:14-17), We believe that God has commanded that no intimate physical activity be engaged in outside of marriage between a man and a woman. Its not an Old Testament Law vs New Testament issue. (Romans 13:1-7; Ephesians 5:21-6:4; Hebrews 13:17; I Peter 2:13-15). He perhaps worded somethings poorly perhaps, but he is completely turned off by your attitude and responses Steve.
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